tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post1114725373265010432..comments2024-02-20T19:58:27.733-06:00Comments on Jake's Wisconsin Funhouse: Upon further review, some odd Supreme Court votes from GB Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-54084961003870848002016-05-05T19:38:49.857-05:002016-05-05T19:38:49.857-05:00Actually what's weird is that the extra votes ...Actually what's weird is that the extra votes weren't reported on Election Night, then were typo'ed in as the Brown Co Clerk canvassed, and the GAB didn't catch it. <br /><br /> Doesn't really help my skepticism about the numbers as they come in. Jake formerly of the LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660401299391001751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-42477784308298499372016-05-05T19:06:13.395-05:002016-05-05T19:06:13.395-05:00It's actually worse than 2011's Kathy &quo...It's actually worse than 2011's Kathy "oops my spreadsheet" Nickolaus because this one made it all the way through certification rather than being an unofficial election night initial report lapse.<br /><br />Bad Brown County Clerk Sandy Juno, bad! (and the GAB could stand to implement some sanity checks too).GeoffThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17317722272565026078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-66963453101756064922016-05-05T12:26:14.260-05:002016-05-05T12:26:14.260-05:00You do not understand Charnin's work then. It...You do not understand Charnin's work then. It is PRECICELY BECAUSE the fix is in that the Koch's have to throw so much money in.<br /><br />Please buy Richard's book and read it -- it takes massive amounts of propaganda to keep people from talking about secret, proprietary vote totals that cannot be verified in any meaningful way.<br /><br />FWIW: Richard has outstanding credentials to do the analysis he does. While now retired, his quantitative analysis and computer modeling skills were highly successful and valuable to NASA and certain Wall Street interests.<br /><br />It is disappointment that, without even understanding Richard's work, you throw out the canard that koch money proves he is wrong -- you have this backwards -- the money is actually an indication that Charnin is right.<br /><br />I follow your blog because most of your posts are informed -- you are way off-base on this one though. Please look at some facts and Richard's work before you dismiss when you have obviously not caught the foundation of his work.<br /><br />I assume you mean well here, but contempt prior to investigation is wrong and I would expect more from liberal bloggers.We the People, Dane Countyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16728197356567265252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-54423587478295652172016-05-05T12:02:15.850-05:002016-05-05T12:02:15.850-05:00Between this and the note you have below, it looks...Between this and the note you have below, it looks like we broke some news here! Well done yourself on the follow-up!Jake formerly of the LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660401299391001751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-72153394863900411102016-05-05T12:00:37.832-05:002016-05-05T12:00:37.832-05:00Ive mentioned Charnin's theories on here befor...Ive mentioned Charnin's theories on here before. They're intriguing, but I also know if the fix was truly in, the Kochs wouldn't throw all the money into elections that they do.<br /><br /> But there is definitely something happening in NE Wis, legit or otherwise, that is helping Republicans. And it needs to be looked into closely by the DPW with a big House race there this November.Jake formerly of the LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660401299391001751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-40501654069724825372016-05-05T11:55:51.111-05:002016-05-05T11:55:51.111-05:00I may well discuss this in the near future, FYII may well discuss this in the near future, FYIJake formerly of the LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660401299391001751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-28801931095264793452016-05-05T11:30:31.162-05:002016-05-05T11:30:31.162-05:00And now I have received this response indicating t...And now I have received this response indicating that it's due to the Brown County Clerk's office making a typo which they discovered themselves, notified the GAB about and it's in the process of being corrected:<br /><br /><br />Dear Mr. GeoffT,<br /> <br />Thank you for contacting the Government Accountability Board regarding the Brown County results for the Supreme Court election on April 5th. The results listed on our website are the certified results which Brown County provided to our office following the County’s canvass of the official results. Earlier this week the Brown County Clerk’s Office notified us that they had discovered an error in the official results for Ashwaubenon due to an extra digit being recorded to Rebecca Bradley’s total. At that time, the Clerk’s Office corrected the results on the County’s website. We advised the County Clerk that the results should not be changed until the County Board of Canvassers reconvenes to document the error and certify the corrected results, as required by Wisconsin Statutes. <br /> <br />The Board of Canvassers met yesterday afternoon and the County submitted the corrected results to our office following that meeting. We need to provide 24 hours’ public notice of a time at which the new certified results will be signed by a member of our Board, which we are in the process of doing now. The official results on our website will be changed when the certification is signed. Our website currently lists the official results which have been certified to date.<br /> <br />I hope that helps to answer your question, but please feel free to contact me if you have any additional questions.<br /> <br /> <br />Michael Haas<br />Elections Division Administrator<br />Wisconsin Government Accountability BoardGeoffThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17317722272565026078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-63495596887098851542016-05-05T11:21:17.811-05:002016-05-05T11:21:17.811-05:00Sorry, but I have to say that I think Charnin is a...Sorry, but I have to say that I think Charnin is a hack.<br /><br />He assumes that no exit polls ever have systematic error, that people have perfectly accurate recollection of their prior voting record, that discrepancies between the Current Population Survey's totals and recorded vote totals <i>must</i> mean stuffed ballot boxes rather than any modest psychological effect of people liking to think that they vote more regularly than they actually do. When asked about this he cites the results of his own model that uses this assumption as proof of it.<br /><br />Whether he's right about anything or not is accidental since he's uninterested in testing such assumptions that he makes but omits to draw any attention to.<br /><br />For a concrete example take the 2011 Supreme Court recount: because of the technical limitations of Optec Eagles the recount for <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110412152844/http://gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/page/voting_equipment_by_municipality_2_pdf_15114.pdf" rel="nofollow">those municipalities</a> had to be done <a href="http://www.gab.wi.gov/node/1719" rel="nofollow">by hand</a>. That's on top of the counties that <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110412143204/http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/voting-equipment/voting-equipment-use" rel="nofollow">used hand-counted paper ballots at the time anyway</a>. The exclusively hand-recounted counties <a href="http://www.gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/recount/county-by-county" rel="nofollow">look very bad for Charnin</a>. His model simply doesn't survive contact with reality when tested, but he breezes on with it regardless.GeoffThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17317722272565026078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-65420843412501498542016-05-05T10:08:53.598-05:002016-05-05T10:08:53.598-05:00Keep that eagle eye trained on things, Jake!
Look...Keep that eagle eye trained on things, Jake!<br /><br />Looking into <a href="http://www.gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/Ward%20by%20Ward%20Report-Supreme%20Court.xlsx" rel="nofollow">the GAB ward-by-ward count</a> and the <a href="http://www.co.brown.wi.us/i_brown/d/county_clerk/election_results/2016/april_2016/el111_-_official(05042016).pdf?t=1462395409" rel="nofollow">Brown County ward-by-ward count</a>, I have concluded that it was the GAB that fubared this one.<br /><br />The Village of Ashwaubenon Wards 3-4 went Kloppenburg - Bradley by 349 - 533; in the GAB they have it 349 - 5333, adding 4,800 votes to Bradley's total (the addition to get the county totals is good in both cases).<br /><br />The 2010 census population of the two wards was 2,732. I have just alerted Michael Haas, the GAB's Elections Division Administrator.GeoffThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17317722272565026078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-35065166328608551152016-05-05T09:53:01.742-05:002016-05-05T09:53:01.742-05:00"[...] What the implications might be for fal..."[...] What the implications might be for fall elections..."<br /><br />It means the fix is in! Remember, in 2012, the network returns all had Mitt Romney CRUSHING Obama when they started reporting results.<br /><br />A friend of mine, working at a Dane County polling location, got a call at 8:25 from an attorney working with Obama. They needed to know what the precinct's results were showing because the media was preparing to call Wisconsin for Mitt Romney!<br /><br />And if you were watching the returns, the state got called for Obama, but the television coverage I saw still had Wisconsin in the "red" column for Romney.<br /><br />Please think about it -- the media and republicans want us to believe that Wisconsin, in a state-wide race, swung more than 15 points from repug to dem in 3 months! This certainly did not happen.<br /><br />It is not plausible to assume Scott Walker wont he recall with a margin of +7% and then in November, Obama won Wisconsin with an 8% margin.<br /><br />Likewise, Wisconsin was reported to be the end-of-the-line for Trump. #NeverTrump, put together by the same right-wing hate radio hacks that shamelessly promote Scott Walker and his sham "wins" at the ballot box, could not have been legitimate.<br /><br />Donald Trump crushed Cruz in every other state after this -- #NeverTrump was just a media charade and it is highly unlikely that it legitimately swung Wisconsin from Trump.<br /><br />But this is how the game is played -- election fraud is only feasible if massive amounts of money (in Wisconsin, out-of-state funds) are used to blanket the airwaves with propaganda. The purpose is to create an aura of invincibility and, in the public's mind, justify non-verifiable vote count.<br /><br />Please remember, everyone, Chimpy stole the 2000 election -- subsequent audits proved Al Gore won Florida. The SCOTUS was used to prevent a timely and honest vote count. "w" was anointed, not elected.<br /><br />2016 will see the same situation, a lame-duck President that will likely stand down for election fraud just like Bill Clinton did (there's another story there, but will not go into details now).<br /><br />Has anyone considered that refusing to even consider an Obama SCOTUS appointment is in order to prevent a likely 5-4 decision to overturn a stolen election!<br /><br />And remember, a 4-4 tie means the lower court's ruling stand. It will not be hard for republicans to find a wing-nut judge that claims jurisdiction to hear the near certain legal challenges that the upcoming November fiasco will create.<br /><br />Will the repugs use their "red shift" computer algorithms to steal the White House for Donald Trump? The will get most of what they want from Hillary Clinton, a war-monger, bankster ally, and in-favor of privatizing Social Security (she will do so under the guise of a "compromise" -- you know, to "get something done"). <br /><br />If you thought 2000 was a sham (and it can be proven as-such), 2016 will be the biggest con-job you will see!<br /><br />In Wisconsin, the fix is in -- but please be sure to follow Richard Charnin's work.We the People, Dane Countyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16728197356567265252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-67239983526506030062016-05-05T07:40:46.677-05:002016-05-05T07:40:46.677-05:00Just noticed the same thing last night re: St. Cro...Just noticed the same thing last night re: St. Croix County, the spreadsheet's still up on my computer...<br /><br />St. Croix County<br />Total republican presidential primary vote - 17091 (Cruz 6900, Trump 6700)<br />Rebecca Bradley vote - 12475<br /><br />OTOH Kloppenburg's vote is almost exactly equal to the Dem turnout (Kloppenburg 10319, Dem presidential vote 10664)<br /><br />Trying to figure out what the implications might be for fall elections, especially downticket. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-20662564987046365742016-05-05T06:57:00.232-05:002016-05-05T06:57:00.232-05:00You need to read his book, "Matrix of Deceit:...You need to read his book, "Matrix of Deceit: Forcing Pre-Election and Exit Polls to Match Fraudulent Vote Counts"<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Deceit-Forcing-Pre-Election-Fraudulent/dp/1480077038<br /><br />The "red shift" skewing races across America is real. Richard Charnin is not the only qualified analyst to find this. Brownback is stealing elections in Kansas and this is happening in Ohio and Michigan (and other states).<br /><br />Gerrymandering and voter suppression provide cover, but the real culprit is the Help America Vote Act that was pushed through after George "Chimpy" Bush stole the 2000 election and then had the SCOTUS anoint him king (2004 can be objectively demonstrated as stolen as well).<br /><br />But this is all covered in Charnin's book. There is no change in Wisconsin or across America until we demand free, open, fair, transparent, and verifiable elections. The data you get from GAB cannot be verified or even audited in any meaningful way and it groups voting wards to make it more difficult to statistically analyze. We the People, Dane Countyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16728197356567265252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3426800777521979578.post-48322843147261411282016-05-05T06:51:29.741-05:002016-05-05T06:51:29.741-05:00Very disappointing to see you post "It’s prob...Very disappointing to see you post "It’s probably paranoia talking" when you claim to be a specialist in numeric analysis. There are always anomolies that violate basic laws of large numbers in Wisconsin races -- Walker stole at least 2 elections.<br /><br />Here's the related posts at highly qualified quantitative analyst Richard Charnin's blog:<br /><br />https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/tag/scott-walker/<br /><br />We the People, Dane Countyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16728197356567265252noreply@blogger.com