Michael Burke of the Journal-Times was able to interview Foxconn executive Louis Woo in a report that ran Wednesday, and it was the latest confirmation that the Fox-con isn’t going to lead to the large-scale, large-screen factory that we were told it was supposed to be.
Woo said Foxconn has dramatically changed its initial presumptions about how it would manufacture in the United States. Originally the company figured it would simply duplicate its China model here — until it realized that the much higher labor costs here would guarantee failure.
“If, six months ago, you asked me: What would be the mix of labor? I would pull out the experience that we have in China and say, ‘Well, 75 percent assembly line workers, 25 percent engineers and managers,’ ” Woo said.
“So, ask me the question today,” he said, then replied, “now it looks like about 10 percent assembly line workers, 90 percent knowledge workers.” Advanced manufacturing here will be done largely by robots and a lot of automation, he said.
Thank you, Mr. Foxconn?
So much for the “major manufacturing plant” that we were told Foxconn would be. Oh, but Mr. Woo insists the jobs that do stay will be high-tech, so that’s better right?
…Woo added: “Mainly, we will certainly need to take advantage of the talent pool in the U.S. Do a lot more research and development (that it does in China), looking into future technologies.”Oh, a lot more than minimum wage? Like the $14.50 an hour you need to pay to get the full 17% tax break on those jobs? BREAK OUT THE PARTY HATS, FOLKS!
Woo clarified that when he mentioned 10 percent assembly line workers, those people will operate the robots and tell them what to do. He said he has to look more closely into what those jobs will pay but said: “Normally we will pay a lot more than minimum wage even for the … relatively low-skill-set workers.”
And don’t worry, even though Mr. Woo claims that only 2,000 people will be working at Foxconn by the end of 2019, and that production of the LCD displays won’t start till 2020, and that robots will be doing a lot of the work, he’ll still have 13,000 people working in Racine County within 5 years. You betcha!
You know, just like how Scott Walker claimed in August, 2013 that Wisconsin would still add 250,000 private-sector jobs in his first term. We didn’t even come close, although we MIGHT hit that as we near the end of Walker’s second term…with the key word being “might”.
“But Jake, I heard an ad from a Realtors front group that claims Foxconn only gets paid for the jobs they create, so it isn’t too costly if there’s less people working, right?”
WRONG, because here’s what the right-wing Realtors leave out of that ad.
1. Foxconn gets 15% back on every dollar that they put in to build the plant, up to $9 billion. That’s true no matter how many jobs they add there (as long as they hit the minimums for that year).
2. $252 million was borrowed to speed up work on I-94 South with the idea that Foxconn would be going in, and Walker’s DOT sent $134 million down to the Foxconnsin region to upgrade numerous two-lane state highways and local roads, while taking away $90 million for similar road projects in the rest of the state.
3. Don't forget the hundreds of millions of dollars in local subsidies, infrastructure and other taxpayer-funded improvements were taken out with the idea that Foxconn would bring a massive amount of jobs. With fewer jobs comes fewer people that need to move into the area, and less need to do more building and spinoff businesses. Which means the local taxpayers in Racine County (and especially the Village of Mount Pleasant) are on the hook for a helluva lot in the coming years, for something that won’t come close to paying back the tax-funded investments that were made.
Look, people like Louis Woo and Scott Walker lie and spin for their living. People like them think that rubes outside of their inner circle will go along with anything they try to sell as long as they can be convinced some pot of gold is lurking around the corner (which Walker and Woo know will never exist).
These guys need to be cut off of their welfare program ASAP, before their grifts handcuff us even more.
I must not understand the business world very well.
ReplyDelete"Woo said Foxconn has dramatically changed its initial presumptions about how it would manufacture in the United States. ... it realized that the much higher labor costs here would guarantee failure."
So let's say 10,000 workers eventually are employed at Foxcon. They can't afford 75% assembly workers (7500) at say $40K with 25% managers and engineers (2500) at say $100K, but 10% assembly workers (1000) and 90% "knowledge" workers (9000) at a much higher salary like $80K is affordable. If my math is correct, the 75% assembly worker mix is $550M and the 10% assembly worker mix is $760M, which somehow will work??
Something isn't adding up ...
You noticed that too, eh? The only way Woo's comments make any sense is if the amount of jobs is WAY lower than the 10,000 you list in your example.
DeleteBut hey, it raises the "average" salary, so it makes it easier to qualify for the 17% kickback on salaries from WEDC.
Foxconn remains horrible policy that will get worse.
ReplyDeleteWhy are Democrats not hanging Foxconn around the neck of every Republican?
Why is Tony Evers' position that Foxconn stays and Wisconsin bleeds not be called out by every anti-Scott Walker Wisconsin resident?
Now is not the time for groupthink and passivity.
Contact Evers and explain that protecting the Foxconn-Wisconsin contract is destructive and terrible politics.
What's funny is that Evers saw through the Fox-con from the start, and with Woo now admitting that the project won't be what was sold to the GOP Legislature when they voted for it, it allows for the deal to be ripped up.
DeleteDems in the Legislature are doing that, as I noticed they had another public event in Mauston this week, and Dem Assembly Leader Gordon Hints (especially) has been all over this bait-and-switch.
Combine that with Walker's dress-up act as a Foxconn construction worker, and this should be a constant theme to drill the GOP with for the next 74 days
Rebecca Kleefisch asking the business round table "How can we love you more?" should be on TV continuously.
ReplyDeleteLet me also link you to Bruce Murphy's Urban Milwaukee column on the incredibly shrinking Foxconn plant. Murphy also blows the lid off of the BS Foxconn and Walker are trying to pull by claiming there will be Foxconn outlets throughout the state. And how those "innovation centers" were nothing more than calculated PR stunts to help Walker in key swing areas of the state.
ReplyDelete" Recall that Foxconn previously said it was creating satellite “innovation centers” in cities like La Crosse and Green Bay, in order to connect to universities and students in those cities. Other than as a ploy to help reelect its patron, Gov. Walker, by proving Foxconn would help the entire state, this made no sense. If the goal was to connect to innovation in Wisconsin why not do a satellite near UW-Madison, one of the top American research universities, with the fastest growth in high tech workers of any city in the state? And if the idea was to hire top college grads, why not target the state’s flagship university, rather than UW-Green Bay or the Chippewa Valley Technical College in Eau Claire? Probably because that wouldn’t get Walker any votes, since heavily Democratic Madison would never support him.
But now Woo is admitting the obvious, that if you want to connect to academics and R&D entities, you don’t need to move your company next door to them, but can connect remotely or simply hire smart people to work at the Racine plant."
Do you know any attorney's willing to help Realtors get out of paying our dues using Act 10? I (and a large group of us across the state) hate that my money, and more of it every year, goes to support local, state, and national policies we don't agree with.
ReplyDeleteOr right-to-work (for less)? Heck, if you withdrew from the Realtors and ID'd yourself as such, that might be viewed as a positive in certain areas.
DeleteI know that was the idea of the Solidarity Realty group in Madison, given that the scummy WRA backed everything about Act 10 and its resulting deteriorating of communities.